you are saying we're if the going to use more energy. i love using energy, don't get me wrong. i turn on a light in a room in my house it stays burning until i go to bed. i want it to be there when i leave like it's my friend waiting for me. when the lights are out the house feels sad. >> the economy is more efficient at using energy over time but we find new uses for energy. but conassumption is going up. most think we'll double as much by 2050 as china, and indian and brazil get higher living standards like the united states and europe. if you want to avoid dangerous levels of climate change and clean air you need more clean energy and most of it has to be from clean sources steencht you don't feel like the old jimmy carter wearing a sweater let's all make our clothing out of hemp environmentalist to me. what is different about you breakthrough guys? >> i think this is the central issue it's about embracing technology. that's why we wrote the book called "love your monsters." we should treat our technologies like our children begun our creations. when they fail us, when they